The Swazi Diaspora Blog seeks to share, inform, challenge and sometimes incite readers but more importantly we also need to be able to learn from each other.  This Blog seeks to represent views of the diverging persuasions of Swazis, contrary to what we have been brought up to believe, we are not as homogenous as it seems looking from the outside in, and it's a positive thing to start exploring aspects of the Swazi society that are not homogenous.
Today we present an interview with a Swazi living in exile, political exile to be clear.  Yes, there are Swazis who have been fighting for what they believe every Swazi citizen deserves, even if Swazis themselves don't know it yet.  This interview does not represent the views of the SDP or the Blogger, it aims to highlight one of many Swazis living in the Diaspora that will be profiled on this site.
Mr. Bongani Masuku is a Swazi that has lived as a political exile in South Africa for over a decade.  He is the International Secretary in COSATU, meaning that he represents COSATU on all international platforms.  He is currently attending COP17 as a COSATU representative, advancing the agenda of developing countries in the fight for action to curb climate change.  He recently lost his mother, and could not attend her funeral, as he did not attend the funerals of his father and brother who passed away a few years ago; due to a warrant of his arrest should he enter Swaziland.
1. How and why did you come to consider yourself  an exile? (what are the circumstances that led to you leaving Swaziland and  seeking refuge in a foreign country?)
According to the UN and  international law, an exile is a person whose circumstances have been proven to  be life-threatening in his or her country of origin. The duty of proving it does  not lie in the person him/herself, but in both the receiving country’s  government and the UN system itself. In this regard, being an exile is not  determined either by myself (in this particular case) or the Swaziland  Government, but the country of destination or what is called the receiving  country, South Africa in this case, together with UN agencies. That is why some  Swazis (and other nationalities) who were trying to apply have been refused the  status, on the basis that their cases wouldn’t fit the criteria set by the UN  and the receiving government on what constitutes a life-threatening  condition.
I am unable to divulge the exact  circumstances surrounding my departure, as some are security related, but will  simply say, I left SD in 1998 November following PUDEMO’s internal processes.  You will recall that at that time there was the intense battle after the failed  tinkhundla elections and the subsequent bombing of the Tinkhundla HQ in Mbabane  where one person died. I was the President of SWAYOCO Then and as expected ,  SWAYOCO had played a key role in the dismal outcomes of the tinkhundla  elections, which yielded a mere 13% turnout and by international standards,  unrepresentative of the will of the Swazi people. The events and the bombings  led the state to believe SWAYOCO was responsible and they were so desperate and  eager to revenge. Let me be honest, when I was first told that I am supposed to  leave for the info brought before me then, I resisted and said how dare I leav  the principal theatre of struggle and go out of the country, but the facts and  the events gave me no choice and I was forced to leave. It was one of the most  traumatic and painful experience, because it correspond to the reality one is  facing today where I cant bury the most special person in my life, my  Mother.
Just ask yourself one question.  Do you think Sipho Jele would still be alive if he went to exile or not? Who  doubts that he was killed for his activities as a member of PUDEMO and  SWAYOCO?
2. What has  been the impact of your exile status on your personal and political  life?
The impact has been enormous, both from the  negative and positive viewpoints. Not being able to visit my country, my home,  and my people is naturally a  painful thing to anyone. Not being able to  directly assist my mother during her difficult days, but relying on people  inside Swaziland is pain enough. What if the fact that I couldn’t bury my two  brothers, my beloved father and now my mother, the person I couldn’t compare to  anyone in life. Its stressful, traumatic and demanding of your courage and  strength. Politically, it raised international eye brows about the reality of  the situation in Swaziland. It made people challenge and ask deeper questions  about the myth of a “peaceful and stable” Swaziland. It made people ask if  forced silence can be equated to peace and stability or if they also mean  democracy or good governance on their own. However, there is one thing critical  about this situation, it is the learning from the experiences of other people  all over the world, you begin to understand the world and society in a more  profound way than would normally be the case. I have no doubt from the wealth of  experience and knowledge gained over the years of my international work, my  contribution to the development of my country would be many times over. As you  encounter different parts of the world and different people, they make you  appreciate what works and what doesn’t work in making a successful society. But  it also develops all your mental faculties or general orientation to major  issues facing humanity. I am many times different than when I left the country  and have no doubt that am now better equipped to comprehend and engage with the  crisis facing our country better than I was then.
  Bongani Masuku addressing international delegates in the UK.
3. Are there  other Swazis that are living in exile, particularly for the same reasons you are  in exile?
In fact, when I and the group we  came with to exile, acquired the status of being exiles, PUDEMO had already had  several comrades as exiles in Australia, Cuba, the UK and several other places  throughout the world. Some of their names are known, including the late Dr  Gabriel Mkhumane, who left Swaziland in 1984 as part of the ANC underground  machinery, which PUDEMO worked closely with. He went through to Mozambique and  got arrested before being assisted to go and study medicine in Cuba, hence his  status as a Doctor. He came back to be the Deputy President of PUDEMO (After  being in charge of Africa and Caribbean affairs in PUDEMO).He was assassinated  in Mpumalanga in 2008 in what we still believe had the dirty hand of the Swazi  regime. I will not mention others as they are still alive and for security  reasons might not be comfortable with it. But I can only add that, since he was  also Deputy President of PUDEMO at some point, Dr Jabulane Arafat Matsebula is  based in Australia and is another exile who left earlier than myself. He is a  well known and highly respected leader of PUDEMO who also couldn’t bury several  members of his own family of Luve. Please also ask the question where was Dr  Gabriel Mkhumane buried? Certainly not in Swaziland and why? He was buried in  Nelspruit, Mpumalanga and his whole family was there together with comrades and  relatives.
4. What is your  comment/response to the Swazi government denying that there are Swazis living in  exile?  The government is reported as saying:
 
 "The Government Press Secretary, Percy  Simelane, said it is unfortunate that the world is being told falsehoods about  the country.
 "On what basis are the people who are claiming to be in  exile making these claims? As far as I know, there are no Swazis who are in  exile because there are no Swazis who have ever left the country under threat of  harm coming to them if they remain in the country. There also no Swazis out of  the country who have been told never to come back home (kute lekwatsiwa  batawugolwa nabangalibhadza la)," Simelane said.
  He said the only foreign based Swazis who have  anything to fear about coming back into the country are those who ran away to  evade inquiry or arrest over criminal matters."
  
Following  the account above about how one come to be an exile, am not sure what denial can  withstand that fact about what constitutes an exile and who determines what is  an exile. It is not the perpetrator or government accused of the atrocities that  determines what an exile is, but the UN and the receiving country. Coming back  again to the case of Sipho Jele, why was he killed? Was it not for political  reasons and why else would anyone deny the fact that Swaziland is a  life-threatening situation of political activists. Its also no doubt that PUDEMO  and SWAYOCO have been the prime targets, hence the proscription and Suppression  laws specifically directed at them and their auxiliaries. Also ask the question,  are there no political prisoners in Swaziland and if everyone was to be either  dead or in prison, then the whole movement would be obliterated from the face of  the earth. Is this not the same reason why the ANC realised the need to have  some of its key comrades going into exile, while most were forced by impossible  conditions in the country to skip, but others were sent on mission. PUDEMO also  does the same. 
The  interesting reality is that the more the Swazi government denies, the more its  exposed in the eyes of the world for what it really is. The truth has a tendency  to be stubborn and persistent. If a credible agency or international  organisation like the UN can accredit you as a person whose life is threatened  and deserving of an exile status, together with the South African government  (far more credible than Swaziland government even when it comes to verification  agencies), then who is this Swazi government to deny that or to challenge that.  If it didn’t kill or have prisoners, then it would maybe talk with some amount  of credibility, but its cabins are to much full of skeletons.